01/17/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2R3

[In order to gain insight into lasting sin, one can guess “what is impossible “.  “What is impossible” forms the unbridgable gap between lawdenial and lawacceptance.

For the Jewish establishment at the time of Jesus, I suppose the impossible relation concerned “purity”.

To the Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes, the common folk could never be pure.  It was impossible.  The Pharisees had a relation of impossibility between {denying the consequences of their actions, through diverse explanations, including a defense of themselves the only practitioners of thinkpure} and {accepting the consequences of their actions and attitudes, including their projection of thinkimpure onto others}.

The Pharisees concluded that a filthy carpenter from Nazareth (yes, the one complaining about the consequences of their actions and attitudes, which were all false allegations, because after all, only they knew how to properly keep the hundreds of ritual obligations of the Law) could not possibly be correct.  He had to be some sort of devil (projected thinkimpure).

The only moral religious perspective where “lawessential is not denied” corresponds to thinkdivine.   Lawacceptance and thinkdivine, then, stand in mutual confirmation.]

01/15/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2R1

[The prior blog’s example parallels, on a minor scale, a doubling back that may occur on a grander scale.

People, who are not in a particular thinkgroup, suffer the lawessential that the thinkgroup generates through their “missing the mark”.  When people grimace or complain, they are labeled – rather, branded – according to some quality that thinkgroup projects onto them.

Once this second layer of symbols appears, lasting sin appears, because the way out of the box created by thinkgroup becomes impossible.

What is not possible?

Unbranding is not possible from the standpoint of thinkgroup.

Each accusation (and attack on an innocent) cements the thinkgroup.

The ratchet effect explains how thinkalong_with_the_group becomes the exclusive way of thinking.

To question the box is to be labeled as holding a “false consciousness”: that is, thinkhate_the_group.]

01/14/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2Q2

Summary of text [comment] page 14

[What about lasting sin as the definitive turning away from Son of God?

Once iniquity is present, then simple denials of the consequences may not sufficient. The consequences that accrue to others may be too obvious.

Consequently, denials may account for those consequences (as due to something other than thinkgroup).  The differences inherent in these denials contribute to the symbolic order of a thinkgroup.  Thus, the language of the thinkgroup, as a system3 of differences1, excludes attribution of the consequences to the thinkgroup.  Lawdenial becomes more difficult to counter.

Here is an example.

Consider a noisy party.  The neighbors complain.  How do the partiers respond when police come, telling them to “keep it down”?  They call their neighbor’s “old fogies”.

What happened?  The party of thinkparty has created the party of thinkold_fogies.  The neighbors may not be “old fogies” at all, but now they are branded.

Branding may lead to further issues.

A partier, in disgust at the old fogies, breaks an empty beer bottle on the neighbor’s driveway.

The neighbors now have broken glass on their driveway.  They had it coming to them.  What else did they expect?  The old-fogies.]

01/13/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2Q1

Summary of text [comment] page 14.

In John, “lack of faith in the Son of God” is represented as “lasting sin”.

“Lasting sin” is “iniquity”.

John speaks of a “final hardening” that is a definitive turning away from the Son of God.  The “final hardening” leads to “eternal damnation”.

[Here, we have some more associations:

lasting sin; similar to “way of the flesh” : includes “denial of lawessential3(_2(disposition1))” that presumes “thinkgroup3(_2(consciencelacking1))”.

iniquity : lawessential exists despite denials. Others suffer consequences of a sinner’s transgressions.]

01/10/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2P3

[What does the idea that lawessential is not limited to the sinner imply?

For one, thinkgroup contextualizes the entire natural philosophical axis as if it were pure situation.

Similarly, lawessential (as well as lawacceptance and lawdenial) contextualizes the moral religious axis as if it were pure situation.

This gives rise to two observations.

First, have you noticed that when you talk about human actions according to one axis, the other conversant often responds according to the opposed intersecting axis?

If you complain about the morals of another person’s actions, the respondent might dismiss the actions as inconsequential.  Or, if you are trying to point out the potential consequences of some action, the respondent might act offended.  You are questioning ‘his’ morals.

Second, there seems to be a sliding scale, where lawessential – the consequences of transgressions – changes as the moral religious axis changes, and visa versa.

This leads to a counter-intuitive insight.  Paul argues that, once you come to the point where you no longer deny the consequences of your transgressions, you are open to insights into thinkdivine that you would never have achieved in a direct manner.

Redemption is discovery.]

01/9/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2P2

[The first two points are familiar.  The third point expands Paul’s views about the “flesh”.

How does it expand Paul’s views?

Could one say that “no one is unaffected by the sinner’s ‘flesh’”?

If  “denial of lawessential3(_2(disposition1))” associates to  “way of the flesh”, then the “independence of lawessential from thinkgroup” corresponds to the third point above (that all are affected by a sinner’s transgression).

The consequences of sin are not limited to the sinner, despite the sinner’s excuses, lawdenial.]

01/8/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2P1

Summary of text [comment] page 13.

Schoonenberg makes three points at this juncture.

Point1: John expresses the same ideas as Paul, but with greater emphasis on the end times.  The choice is ultimately for or against Christ [as a human person embodying thinkdivine].

Point 2: John also wrote that “sin” hardens the sinner’s “heart” and the sinner ends up living a “hard” life (Note the combo sums to “hardened heart”).

Point 3: John claimed that no one is unaffected by a sinner’s transgression.

01/6/14

Thoughts on Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.2N

Summary of text [comment] page 13.

Paul sees “sin” [sin(consciencelacking)] as preceding transgression [sin].  Every “sin” is opposed to the Holy Spirit [thinkdivine].  “Sin” hardens the “heart” [think3(2(conscience1))].  See Eph 4:3; Rom 8:14 and Gal 5:19-21.

He who lives in “sin” is “carnal” and “of the flesh” [denying lawessential3(appeasing2(dispositions1))].

The concept of “flesh” is the summary of “what man is under sin”.

[As indicated with the brackets interspersing the summary of the text, elements of the intersecting nested forms parallel Paul’s comments.

Two words have powerful associations:

“heart” : think3(_2(conscience1))

The “heart” is purely theoretical in this association.  That is, think3(_2(conscience1) is a purely theoretical concept.  It cannot become actual unless specified.

“Heart” is concrete only when specified in a super-ego or tautological fashion.

A “hardened heart” is thinkgroup3(_2( consciencelacking1).

An “open heart” is thinkdivine3(_2(consciencefree1).

“flesh” : a denial of lawessential3(_2(disposition1))

The “flesh” has multiple associations.  “Flesh” presumes a thinkgroup and consciencelacking that facilitates sins that emerge from one’s dispositions.  “Flesh” denies the consequences (lawessential) of those sinful acts as well as appeases the dispositions.  “The denial of lawessential3” puts the transgression into context.

Of course, lawessential remains “what it is” as the consequences or contextualization of the transgressions.  It cannot be articulated in the symbolic order of the thinkgroup.]