10/6/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1BB

[So, I wonder, what normal context could bring I (the one who recognizes) and myself (the one who is recognized) out of the realm of possibility?

I must admit that “it was never inevitable that I exist”.

So either, “‘God3‘ brought ‘I and myself2‘ into relation with ‘His pure potential1‘.” or “It was pure luck” or “It was destiny” or whatever …

The former option is the apparently discredited concept of design. The latter options are completely crazy.

So, which do I choose, discredited sanity or creditable craziness?]

10/5/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1BA

[I cannot proclaim: I am my own relation.

Despite this, the proclamation holds an odd attraction. The idea sounds like “what a Pharaoh might say”:

“I3” brought “I and myself2” into relation with “the potential inherent in me1“.

Yes, it sounds like Pharaoh.

But it also sounds like sin.

Why?

Well, look at the normal context.

Sounds presumptive, no? It sounds like “me, me, me.”.

Also, look at the realm of possibility.

Sinners destroy themselves by imagining that they are omnipotent. Or perhaps, they regard themselves as so exceptional that there is no possibility of failure. The rules do not apply to them.]

10/2/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1BA

[I recognize me.

Yeah, that would image “God Recognizes Himself”.

“I” would be the image of “the One Who Recognizes” and “myself” would be the image of “the One Who Is Recognized”.

What could be the catch?

The match only works in the realm of actuality.

In thirdness, I cannot image my own relation to myself.

I cannot proclaim: I am my own relation.

Why?

I am not omnipotent.]

10/1/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1AZ

[Well, let’s start with this apparently straightforward question:

Is “I recognize myself” an image of “God Recognizing Himself”?

If yes, then how would this work?

It seems obvious.

“I” would be the image of “the One who Recognizes” and “myself” would be the image of “the One who Is Recognized”.]

09/30/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1AY

Summary of text [comment] page 67

[So let me consider how “an image of God” would fit into a nested form.

There are clearly three slots in God Recognizing Himself:

(3) God (the Holy Spirit) belongs to triadic relations.

(2) “What God Recognizes” (the Son) and “God Recognizing” (the Father), both belong to actuality.

(1) Omnipotence (the capacity to Recognize and Be Recognized) belongs to the realm of possibility.]

09/25/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1AV

[Finally, the triadic relation itself is divine. The relation itself appears as a person that is similar to the persons in actuality, yet somehow brings both persons (in actuality) into relation to the grounding monadic potential.

This mediator, “Recognize3“, proceeds from “the (omniscient) One Who Recognizes2” and “the (omnipresent) One Who Is Recognized2” while at the same time creating the context where both emerge from “the Omnipotence of Recognition1“.]

09/24/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1AU

[Actuality belongs to the category of secondness. Secondness always contains at least two elements. One can think of secondness as “pairs of cause and effect”, where “one element is distinct and (somehow) determines the other”.

For “God Recognizing Himself”, the two elements in actuality must be “the One Who Recognizes” and “the One Who Is Recognized”.

In addition, “the One Who Recognizes” cannot be identical to “the One Who Is Recognized”. Why? That would be a monad.   Identity belongs to firstness. Actuality requires two elements that we (humans) perceive as distinct, separable, yet contiguous.

“The nature of the divine” dictates that “both these actualities must be divine”.

Otherwise, God would not be omniscient (literally, all knowing, corresponding to The One Who Recognizes) as well as omnipresent (literally, all there, corresponding to The One Who Is Recognized).

Both actualities in this dyad are capable of generating their own normal contexts.

They are experienced as Persons belonging to “the actuality of God Recognizing Himself”.]

09/23/15

Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 2.1AT

[The idea that “God is ‘God the One'” points to the monadic category of firstness, the realm of possibility.   This realm contains the “Capacity of God to Recognize Himself”. After all, if God were to recognize anything, then it would be Himself.

If God could not recognize Himself, then God would not be omnipotent (literally, total potential). The One God must be omnipotent according to the logic of the Greeks.

Yet, the triadic recognition itself holds the actual in relation. The actual is subject to the laws of noncontradiction.]